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From: "chthonic"
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> From: "seeklektek"
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> >From: "chthonic"
> >> also, i think 'the sylvie and babs hi-fi companion' was a
> precursor
> >> to what people now call "plunderphonics".quoted 2 lines Nah. John Oswald was doing the Mystery Tapes> >Nah. John Oswald was doing the Mystery Tapes
> >way before any of that Stapleton stuff.quoted 3 lines hmm...it seems so, since a page i read dates his work from 1975> hmm...it seems so, since a page i read dates his work from 1975
> (3 years prior to the first NWW and 10 years before "s&b").
> but were they actually released?
Mail-order only. Some of them are phenomenal and some are just dense.
A lot of it riotous.
quoted 4 lines anywhere stapleton could have> anywhere stapleton could have
> heard them? the same page says "The first two plunderphonic
> releases, a 1988 EP and a 1989 full-length CD", which would
> place those releases after the NWW LP.
Stapleton probably *did* hear them, at that time.
quoted 5 lines it also says "Mystery Tapes, a series of compilation cassettes> it also says "Mystery Tapes, a series of compilation cassettes
> resembling aural magazines, offering a collage of music, voices,
> and sound...Sound sources were taken out of context, voices were
> removed from their associated faces, and songs were presented
> on their own merit."
Yep: that's the Mystery Tapes.
quoted 3 lines that could just be a poor description, but this sounds a bit less like> that could just be a poor description, but this sounds a bit less like
> stapleton's collage style and more like a kind of bizarro mixtape, or
> at least halfway between.
They were Plunderphonics. Well, Plunderphonics was the
name Oswald came up with after he'd been doing it for
a bit, but then again, Plunderphonics *is* John Oswald. =)
quoted 9 lines "Many of the ideas first presented in these tapes would be> "Many of the ideas first presented in these tapes would be
> explored further as Oswald began to develop his idea of
> plunderphonics in the late 1980s." this again sounds like the
> tapes were done but were not called plunderphonics or fully
> developed as such until after NWW had been releasing records for
> several years.
> just saying what it sounds like. never heard oswald's pre-NWW
> work.
> d.
Cassette-only. I don't have a recorder these days, so I can't
offer to burn, er, dupe them. ;)
seek
np: Mahir - 'I Kiss You'
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